Tuesday, February 7, 2023

Gospel of John--Discussion II

Please read Chapters 11-22 of John's gospel. As always, I prefer you read for quality rather than quantity, though, in this case, skimming through all 11 chapters and then gong back to read some chapters more carefully might work best.

Your 4th MT study question notes that, while the Gospel of John is in some ways very different from the synoptic gospels, it often complements and supplements the synoptics, sometimes in surprising ways. 

Choose a verse or passage from the assigned chapters and a "parallel" verse or passage from one of the synoptics on the same subject (e.g., money, leadership, faith, etc.). Compare and contrast the two verses or passages.

A gospel "synopsis" or a harmony of the gospels can help you find parallel passages. The  online synopsis I suggested you use for the earlier extra credit assignment might make this assignment a bit easier.


9 comments:

  1. "Then he made the disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowds
    14.23 And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone, 14.24 but the boat by this time was many furlongs distant from the land, beaten by the waves; for the wind was against them. 14.25 And in the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea. 14.26 But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were terrified, saying, "It is a ghost!" And they cried out for fear. 14.27 But immediately he spoke to them, saying, "Take heart, it is I; have no fear." 14.28 And Peter answered him, "Lord, if it is you, bid me come to you on the water." 14.29 He said, "Come." So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus; 14.30 but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, "Lord, save me." 14.31 Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, "O man of little faith, why did you doubt?" 14.32 And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased. 14.33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God." (Matthew 14: 22-33)

    "When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea, 6.17 got into a boat, and started across the sea to Caper'na-um. It was now dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them. 6.18 The sea rose because a strong wind was blowing. 6.19 When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and drawing near to the boat. They were frightened, 6.20 but he said to them, "It is I; do not be afraid." 6.21 Then they were glad to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat was at the land to which they were going." (John 6: 16-21)

    Compare: In the encounter as written in Matthew, it states that Jesus was alone praying on a mount, however in John, it does not say anything about Jesus going to the mount to pray. In Matthew, the disciples saw Jesus as cried out "It is a ghost!" when they see Jese walking on water, and in John they were just frightened but they didn't call out to Jesus, Jesus called out to them.

    Contrast: The only big thing that can be contrasted from these two passages is the fact that in Matthew, Peter calls out to Jesus and Jesus tells him to get out of the boat and walk to him and he does. When Peter starts to sink into the water and calls for Jesus to save him.

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  2. The passage or two verses that I decided to look at to compare and contrast were the verses in Matthew and Mark and healing a leper.
    Matthew 8:1-4 "When he came down from the mountain, great crowds followed him; and behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him saying, Lord if you will, you can make me clean. And he stretched his hand and touched him saying I will; be clean and immediately his leprosy was cleansed. And Jesus said to him see that you say nothing to anyone but go show yourself to the priest and offer the gift that Moses commanded for a proof to the people."
    Mark 1:40-45 "And a leper came to him beseeching him and kneeling to him if you will you can make me clean. Moved with pity he stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him I will be clean. And immediately the leprosy left him and he was made clean. And he sternly charged him and sent him away at one and said to him see that you say nothing to anyone but go show yourself to the priest and offer for your cleansing what Moses commanded, for a proof to the people. But he went out and began to talk freely about it and to spread the news so that Jesus could no longer openly enter a town but was out in the country and people came to him from every quarter."
    Compare: Both of these accounts are pretty much the same story. The leper is seeking help and kneels before the lord asking to be cleansed. In both stories this happens and Jesus says to go to the priest as a gift of proof to the people but not to tell anyone.
    Contrast: In Mark's account the leper after being told not to go and tell anyone the leper proceeds to go around and tell everyone about what happened which forced Jesus not to be able to enter a town anymore and had to be out in the country where people from every quarter came to him. This is the only main difference between the two passages. The other smaller difference is that Marks passage on the story is a little bit longer than Matthews story.

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  3. The passage I decided to look at is Mark (6:48-52) and John (6:16-21).The passage is about Jesus walking on the water and the disciples reaction to seeing him.

    Mark- He saw that they were making headway painfully, for the wind was against them. And about the fourth hour of the night he came to them walking on the sea. He meant to pass by them, but when they saw him walking on the sea they thought it was a ghost, and cried out, for they all saw him and were terrified. But immediately he spoke to them and said, "Take heart it is I. Do not be afraid." And he got into the boat with them, and the wind creased. And they were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened.

    John- When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea, got into a boat, and started across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them. The sea became rough because a strong wind was blowing. When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were frightened. But he said to them "It is I; do not be afraid." Then they were glad to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat was at the land to which they were going.

    Compare- Mark and John both state that the disciples were afraid because they didn't know who it was at first that they were seeing. They also both state that Jesus responded to the disciples saying "It is I, do not be afraid." Both gospels also mention how the seas were rough that they were crossing and that they calmed down once he was in the boat with them.

    Contrast- Mark mentions that Jesus saw them struggling before the disciples noticed him. He also mentions how it was the 4th hour of the night when Jesus appeared to them. Mark also mentions that the disciples cried out saying that it was ghost when Jesus passed by them. Once Jesus got into the boat Mark says that the wind ceased and that disciples were astounded and there hearts hardened. John states that the disciples were heading to Capernaum and that they had rowed 3 or 4 miles across the sea when they saw Jesus. John doesn't mention anything about there hearts being hardened or the wind ceasing. John does mention that boat was immediately at the land once Jesus got in. Mark doesn't mention that.
    - Eathen Erck

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  4. So for my verse comparison i will be comapring John's vs Luke's account of Jesus entering Jerusalem

    12.12 "The next day a great crowd who had come to the feast heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem. 12.13 So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying, "Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!" 12.14 And Jesus found a young ass and sat upon it; as it is written, 12.15 "Fear not, daughter of Zion; behold, your king is coming, sitting on an ass's colt!" 12.16 His disciples did not understand this at first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that this had been written of him and had been done to him. 12.17 The crowd that had been with him when he called Laz'arus out of the tomb and raised him from the dead bore witness. 12.18 The reason why the crowd went to meet him was that they heard he had done this sign. 12.19 The Pharisees then said to one another, "You see that you can do nothing; look, the world has gone after him." John 12:12-19

    "9.28 And when he had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. 19.29 When he drew near to Beth'phage and Bethany, at the mount that is called Olivet, he sent two of the disciples, 19.30 saying, "Go into the village opposite, where on entering you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever yet sat; untie it and bring it here. 19.31 If any one asks you, 'Why are you untying it?' you shall say this, 'The Lord has need of it.'" 19.32 So those who were sent went away and found it as he had told them. 19.33 And as they were untying the colt, its owners said to them, "Why are you untying the colt?" 19.34 And they said, "The Lord has need of it." 19.35 And they brought it to Jesus, and throwing their garments on the colt they set Jesus upon it. 19.36 And as he rode along, they spread their garments on the road. 19.37 As he was now drawing near, at the descent of the Mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen, 19.38 saying, "Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord! Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!" Luke 19-28-38

    Compare- So both of these accounts and actually all 4 Gospel Accounts are actually pretty similar in terms of what happened. Then telling that Info the reader. However John's account is relatively short compared to Luke and the other synoptic gospels. It is only 6 verses long but Luke's is 10 verses. Also John is the only account not mention Bethany, The Mount of Olives and Beth'phage.

    Contrast- What is really interesting though about John's Account is that he states that crowd is very interested in Jesus because of the Miracles that he has done. Aka Lazarus also it states that the Pharisees Think that the world is infaucuated with Jesus.
    -Austin Dreyer

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  5. I chose to look at the passage of the Anointing at Bethany. This passage appears differently in Matthew’s, Mark’s, and John’s gospel.
    In Matthew’s gospel, while Jesus was sitting at the table, a women came and poured a jar of perfumed oil on his head. In this gospel it is the disciples who question this saying, “Why this waste? It could have been sold for much, and the money given to the poor” (26:8-9).
    In John’s gospel, this passage is told after Lazarus was raised from the dead. Mary is said to be the one who anoints Jesus’ feet with the oil. In this gospel Judas Iscariot is recognized as the disciple who questions this act saying the money for the oil could have been given to the poor.
    The same even must be being told in both gospels because both take place in Bethany. However, Matthew says that the oil was poured on Jesus’s head while John says that it was poured on his feet. John also specifies that it was Judas Iscariot who saw this action as wrong. In doing so, John paints a clear picture of Judas’ character. John writes, “Why was this oil not sold for three hundred day’s wages and given to the poor? He (Judas) said this not because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief and held the money bag and used to steal the contributions” (12:5-6).
    -Bridget Fuhrmann

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  6. "When it was evening, he reclined at table with the twelve. And as they were eating, he said 'Truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me.' And they were very sorrowful and began to say to him one after another, 'Is it I, Lord?' He answered, 'He who has dipped his hand in the dish with me will betray me. The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.' Judas, who would betray him, answered, 'Is it I, Rabbi?' He said to him, 'You have said so'" (Matthew 26:20-25).

    "After saying these things, Jesus was troubled in his spirit, and testified, 'Truly, truly I say to you, one of you will betray me.' The disciples looked at one another, uncertain of whom he spoke. One of his disciples, whom Jesus loved, was reclining at table at Jesus' side, so Simon Peter motioned to him to ask Jesus of whom he was speaking. So that disciple, leaning back against Jesus, said to him, 'Lord, who is it?' Jesus answered, 'It is he whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.' So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot. Then after he had taken the morsel, Satan entered into him, 'What you are going to do, do quickly. Now no one at the table knew why he said this to him. Some thought that, because Judas had the moneybag, Jesus was telling him, 'Buy what we need for the feast,' or that he should give something to the poor. So after receiving the morsel of bread, he immediately went out. And it was night" (John 13:21-30).

    Compare: Both of these passages explain that Judas is the one who will betray Jesus. They also both state the disciples' confusion as to who that person will be. Jesus explains that someone at the table will betray him.

    Contrast: The passage in Matthew is not as detailed as the one in John. In Matthew, Jesus tells Judas that he is correct in his assumption, but that is the end of the passage. In John, however, after revealing that Judas is the one who will betray him, Jesus said, "What you are going to do, do quickly." Judas then leaves. Matthew does not go into this much detail, but John explains, quite vividly, the details of the last supper. In John, it also states that Satan entered Judas after Jesus had given him the morsel of bread--it does not say that in Matthew.
    -Lauren Bland

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  7. I chose to look at the centurion's servant in John 4:46-54, and Mathew 8:5-13.
    Mathew 8:5-13
    As he entered Caper'na-um, a centurion came forward to him, beseeching him
    and saying, "Lord, my servant is lying paralyzed at home, in terrible distress."And he said to him, "I will come and heal him." But the centurion answered him, "Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; but only say the word, and my servant will be healed. For I am a man under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes, and to another, 'Come,' and he comes, and to my slave, 'Do this,' and he does it." When Jesus heard him, he marveled, and said to those who followed him, "Truly, I say to you, not even in Israel have I found such faith. I tell you, many will come from east and west and sit at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." And to the centurion Jesus said, "Go; be it done for you as you have believed." And the servant was healed at that very moment.

    John 4:46-54.
    So he came again to Cana in Galilee, where he had made the water wine. And at Caper'na-um there was an official whose son was ill. When he heard that Jesus had come from Judea to Galilee, he went and begged him to come down and heal his son, for he was at the point of death. Jesus therefore said to him, "Unless you see signs and wonders you will not believe." The official said to him, "Sir, come down before my child dies." Jesus said to him, "Go; your son will live." The man believed the word that Jesus spoke to him and went his way. As he was going down, his servants met him and told him that his son was living. So he asked them the hour when he began to mend, and they said to him, "Yesterday at the seventh hour the fever left him." The father knew that was the hour when Jesus had said to him, "Your son will live"; and he himself believed, and all his household. This was now the second sign that Jesus did when he had come from Judea to Galilee.

    Compare: In Mathew and John, the centurion acknowledges that Jesus has great spiritual authority. The centurion both believes his son will be healed when Jesus speaks. The centurion both accounts does not demand or force Jesus to heal his son. The centurion is both humble and respectful of Jesus' authority over healing.

    Contrast: In Mathew, the person who is to be called a servant, while in John, it is his son. In Mathew, it is established that the centurion has great power, and so does Jesus. While John, assumes that the knowledge is already known about authority. In John the news gets to the centurion while he's on the journey back. But in Mathew we assume that the Centurion receives news on his arrival at his home.
    -Walker Larson

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  8. The passage I chose was “The cleansing of the temple.” The interesting part about this passage is that it actually appears to have different versions in each of the four gospels.

    John 2:13–16
    Luke 19:45–48
    Mark 11:15–19
    Matthew 21:12–17

    Compare: All four of these recounts of this story are related in context. They all show Jesus cleansing/driving out the wickedness of greed from the temple.

    Contrast: What is different about these passages are what Jesus says. Luke and Matthew have the same words, “It is written, 'My house shall be a house of prayer'; but you have made it a den of robbers.” Mark has essentially the same words, but he adds the words “for all the nations” after “My house shall be a house of prayer.”
    John gives us what seems to be an account of a later cleansing where Jesus is filled with “zeal for his house” and he commands the merchants to “Take these things away; you shall not make my Father's house a house of trade” for He has the power to raise the temple in three days should it be destroyed.

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